Justin Welby tells BBC radio interviewer there are moments when he doubts – but he is certain about the existence of Jesus
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Reform Judaism and Imam Shaykh Ibrahim Mogra at a human rights vigil outside
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The archbishop of Canterbury has admitted to having doubts about the existence of God and disclosed that on a recent morning jog with his dog he questioned why the Almighty had failed to intervene to prevent an injustice.
In a light-hearted but personal interview in front of hundreds of people in Bristol cathedral last weekend, Justin Welby said: "There are moments, sure, where you think 'Is there a God? Where is God?'"
Footage of the archbishop of Canterbury's interview
Welby quickly added that as the leader of the world's 80 million-strong Anglican community this was "probably not what the archbishop of Canterbury should say".
Earlier, the interviewer, BBC Bristol's Lucy Tegg, reminded him of the weight his words carried. "You have a remarkably prominent role within the faith community around the world," Tegg said.
"I've noticed," Welby quipped.
Tegg then asked him: "Do you ever doubt?"
Welby replied: "Yes. I do. In lots of different ways really. It's a very good question. That means I've got to think about what I'm going to say. Yes I do." He added: "I love the Psalms, if you look at Psalm 88, that's full of doubt."
Welby suggested that his doubts were a regular occurrence, by recounting a recent morning run with dog.
"The other day I was praying over something as I was running and I ended up saying to God: 'Look, this is all very well but isn't it about time you did something – if you're there' – which is probably not what the archbishop of Canterbury should say."
He added: "It is not about feelings, it is about the fact that God is faithful and the extraordinary thing about being a Christian is that God is faithful when we are not."
Later in the interview, Welby said he was certain about the existence of Jesus, even talking about his presence beside him. "We know about Jesus, we can't explain all the questions in the world, we can't explain about suffering, we can't explain loads of things but we know about Jesus," Welby said.
Asked what he did when life got challenging, Welby said: "I keep going and call to Jesus to help me, and he picks me up."
"Perceptions of God" – June 6, 2010 (Kryon channeled by Lee Carroll) (Subjects: Quantum Teaching, The Fear of God, Near-death Experience, God Becomes Mythology, Worship, Mastery, Intelligent Design, Benevolent Creator,Global Unity.... etc.) - (Text version)
“.. The Fear of God
Humanity has consistently put God in a box of fear. Humanity fears God, does it not? It's because God appears immense and humans are small. Let's talk about that Human perception. The Human wants to paste Human attributes on divinity. It's all you have to compare to, so therefore, you apply everything Human to the divine.
When you step across the veil, in your historical perception, Humans want to find strife. You're going to find war. You're going to find angels fighting angels. That's your mythology, isn't it? You're going to find all of the attributes of humanity that you have pasted upon God completely and totally. You're going to find punishment and reward, revenge and jealousy.
Dear ones, do I really have to tell you that these things do not exist on my side of the veil? I want to tell you what exists on my side of the veil. It's a rainbow of magnificent energy that sings a message in color and light. There's no strife here. The creator energy has no strife. There's no punishment or reward here, since there is no judgment. Judgment is the constraining of a Human's consciousness that does not allow for unconditional love. There's only the energy of a loving creator here. You're a part of the creator energy family. You should know this, and you should also have the wisdom to know that all of the things you paste upon God are your own Human attributes. The kind of reality on the other side of the veil is vastly different than the prison of reality that you have created for yourself in 3D. Yet it's all you have, so that's how you think. It's time to pass this perception, and to realize that creator energy is beyond your ability to see and beyond your scope of understanding.
For centuries you haven't been able to think past that box of what God must be like. So you create a Human-like God with wars in heaven, angel strife, things that would explain the devil, fallen angels, pearly gates, lists of dos and don'ts, and many rules still based on cultures that are centuries old. You create golden streets and even sexual pleasures as rewards for men (of course) - all Human perspective, pasted upon God. I want to tell you that it's a lot different than that. I want to remind you that there are those who have seen it! Why don't you ask somebody who has had what you would call a near-death experience? ..."
"The Humanization of God" – Jul 16, 2011 (Kryon channelled by Lee Carroll) - (Subjects: The Humanization of God, Gaia, Benevolent Design, Shift of Human Consciousness, 2012, Guides and Angels, Communication with God, Wars in Heaven ?, The Love of God, (Old) Souls, Global Unity,.... etc.)
“… Communication with God
Let's talk about the next one - communication. Why is it that you want to humanize God? As I indicated a moment ago, you put God apart from you, make Him a male, give Him a beard and a deep voice. You assign Him to elder status and you talk to Him, you worship, and you build statues to humanize Him. God is inside! The greatest energy of the creator of Earth sits in every single Human Being, right inside. Every single piece of DNA has this, 100 trillion of them. There's a consciousness and even a communication between DNA molecules that science doesn't even know about. God is in you! So why do you rip it out and build buildings to hold it?
Let me ask you something: Let's say it's time for you to talk to one of your own body organs, and the exercise of the day would be to talk to your kidney. Would you then build a giant kidney and worship it? Oh, how 3D of you! Do you see what I'm saying? Why would you do that when it's inside your body? It's because you do not perceive God as coming from you. So it's about divine perception. It is time for you to change your image of you! When you do, you will open your eyes, look in the mirror and say, "I am that I am. God is in me." It's hard to do that as a Human Being. It requires you step out of your old reality of victimization.
What does your culture tell you about your divinity? Everything you see in the media tells you you're broken. You need this, you need that. Have you ever seen a commercial where they look at you and say, "You don't need anything but yourself. Now get on with it."? No.
How can you best communicate with Spirit? I will tell you. You've got to fall in love with yourself! That is the key. That is the portal. It is being OK to have God inside you. You were not born dirty; you were born magnificent - magnificent! And the ones in this room who have discovered their magnificence are not ego-driven. They're love-driven, and that's a big difference. They love themselves as they would love God. They understand the balance of standing up for what they believe in as being part of light, and rejecting things that represent old energy and the dark. At the same time, they hold their egos at bay so it never controls them. That's what the masters did and that's what the masters taught. Communication with God is automatic when you touch that part of the creator that is inside yourself. That opens the portal.
Wars in Heaven?
Look at history for a moment, and see what humans have decided about God and the history of God. Let me tell you the story that is taught today. Once upon a time, God, the creator of the Universe, had a problem. It seems to be that there was a war going on. Somehow, it was a war with the angels involved, and certain angels didn't like the way God was doing things. Now, right away, does that sound like God or does it sound like men?
The story continues. Finally, because the war was going badly, the instigator was thrown out of heaven (or whatever you call it) and fell to Earth. He took his followers with him and went underground. Now he has a tail, horns and makes fire. Again, dear ones, does that sound like the creator of the Universe to you? Does that sound like the core of love, the multidimensional source of all that is? No. It sounds like a children's story that humanizes God so that the masses can be controlled. Wars are what Humans do, not the creator of your Universe. A war in heaven? The story itself is the ultimate humanization of God. Humans create scenarios of judgment, punishment, revenge, and drama, then place it upon God. If you have any spark of spiritual logic, it will shout that this is the persona of Humans, not God.
The Love of God
I have told you before the mother who looks at the child has nothing but love. That family member never tells the child that she's going to ignore him, or that life with her is going to be difficult. She never casts the child into a dark place if he doesn't do what he's told. Instead, there is love, understanding, patience, and help. That's all. And that's what you get from the other side of the veil, dear ones. That's why I stand before you now. Why do you humanize God and reduce the splendor of this creator energy to a common duality? The reason is that it represents an old energy of Human thought, and not the wisdom of a new earth. Humanity is changing, and so is the understanding of the God inside.…”